8155/8255/8295参数对比

SoC Chipset Feature Comparison

Feature

SA8155P

SA8255P

SA8295P

Process 7 nm 5 nm 5 nm
Package 23 mm × 23 mm × 2.26 mm FCBGA+HS  25 mm × 25 mm × 2.31 mm FCBGA+HS 25 mm × 25 mm × 2.25 mm FCBGA+HS
BGA pitch  0.7 mm 0.6 mm 0.6 mm
AECQ Grade 3 Grade 3 Grade 3
CPU Qualcomm ® Kryo™ 485, 2 MB L3
1 x Gold prime core up to 2.419 GHz
3 x Gold cores up to 2.131 GHz
4 x Silver cores up to 1.785 GHz

Kryo Gen 6, 2 MB L3 per cluster

4 x Gold prime core up to 2.35 GHz

4 x Gold prime core up to 2.35 GHz

Kryo 695, 8 MB L3
4 x Gold prime core up to 2.5 GHz
4 x Gold cores up to 2.05 GHz
DMIPS 105K 189/230K 220K
Memory 4 × 16 LPDDR4X; up to 2092.8 MHz 6 x 16-bit LPDDR5; up to 3200 MHz 8 × 16 LPDDR4X; up to 2092.8 MHz
GPU Qualcomm ® Adreno™ 640 Adreno 663  Adreno 695
GPU(GFLOPS) 1100 1100/1200/1300 3000
AI/NSP V66, 4 x Qualcomm ® Hexagon™ Vector
eXtensions (Qualcomm ® Hexagon™ Vector
eXtensions (HVX)), 1 x HCP, up to 1.459 GHz
V73, four HVX, two HMX, up to 1.5 GHz V68, 4 x HVX, 2 x HMX, up to 1.4 GHz
AI(TOPS) 8 10/15/24/32/48 40~50
DPU Adreno DPU 895, 24 MP, DSC v1.1, up to
530 MHz
Adreno DPU 1199, 48 MP, DSC v1.2, up to 600 MHz Adreno DPU 1199, 64 MP, DSC v1.2, up
to 600 MHz
Camera Processor Qualcomm Spectra™ 380 ISP, 2.5 Gbps/lane,
40 Gbps total
Qualcomm Spectra 690, 2.5 Gbps/lane, 40 Gbps total Qualcomm Spectra 395, 2.5 Gbps/lane,
40 Gbps total
VPU

Adreno VPU 554,

decode 4k120, encode 4k60,concurrent 4k60/4k30 decode/encode

Adreno VPU 670,

decode 4k240, encode 4k120, concurrent 4k120 decode/encode

Adreno VPU 665,

decode 4k240, encode 4k120, concurrent 4k120 decode/encode

Audio V66 512 KB L2 up to 1.459 GHz  V66 2 MB L2 up to 1.459 GHz V66 2 MB L2 up to 1.459 GHz
Security SPU230 SPU230 SPU250
Functional
safety
Safety Element out of Context (SEooC)
targeting assumed ASIL B use cases
Safety Element out of Context (SEooC) targeting assumed ASIL B use cases. Contains dedicated Safety Island (SAIL) with quad Cortex-R52 CPU configurable per pair Safety Element out of Context (SEooC)
targeting assumed ASIL B use cases.
Contains dedicated Safety Manager
sub-system, with lock step core
Junction temp -40°C to +105°C  -40°C to +115°C  -40°C to +115°C
Display - DP 4-lane DisplayPort v1.4 shared with
USB 3.1 Gen 2
4 x 4-lane embedded DisplayPort v1.4b 3 x 4-lane DisplayPort v1.4, 1 x shared with USB
3.1 Gen 2
4 x 4-lane embedded DisplayPort v1.4b
Display - DSI DSI D-PHY v1.2
4-lane DSI0
4-lane DSI1

DSI D-PHY v1.2

DSI C-PHY v1.1

2 x 4-lane DSI

DSI D-PHY v1.2

DSI C-PHY v1.1

2 x 4-lane DSI

Camera – CSI CSI-2 v1.3
4-lane CSI0
4-lane CSI1
4-lane CSI2
4-lane CSI3

CSI D-PHY v1.2

CSI C-PHY v1.1

4 x 4-lane CSI

CSI D-PHY v1.2

CSI C-PHY v1.1

4 x 4-lane CSI

CCI-I2C x4 x8 x8
Audio – LS-I2S 4 x 2 data lanes each
1 x 4 data lanes each

9 x 2 data lanes each

1 x 4 data lanes each

9 x 2 data lanes each

1 x 4 data lanes each

Audio – HS-I2S 3 x 2 data lanes each, receive only 5 x 2 data lanes each, receive only 5 x 2 data lanes each, receive only
Audio – TDM/PCM 4 x 2 data lanes each
1 x 4 data lanes each

9 x 2 data lanes each

1 x 4 data lanes each

9 x 2 data lanes each

1 x 4 data lanes each

Storage – UFS  2 lane UFS 2.1 gear 3 rate A 1 x 2 lane UFS 3.1 gear 4 rate B 1 x 2 lane UFS 3.1 gear 4 rate B
PCIe 1-lane PCIe 3 (RC)
2-lane PCIe 3 (RC/EP)

1 x 2-lane PCIe 4 (RC/EP)

1 x 4-lane PCIe 4 (RC/EP)

1 x 1-lane PCIe 3 (RC/EP)
2 x 4-lane PCIe 3 (RC/EP)
Ethernet –
RGMII/RMII
1 x with MDIO 1.8 V only  2 x SGMII up to 2.5 Gbps 2 x with MDIO 1.8 V or 2.5 V
USB 1 x USB 3.1 Gen 2 shared with
DisplayPort
1 x USB 3.1 Gen 2

2 x USB3.1 Gen 2

1 x USB2.0

4 x USB3.1 Gen 2 1x shared with DisplayPort
2 x USB2.0
Functional safety -

79 SAIL I/Os *

5 x SAIL QUP SE (UART/I2C/SPI-M/SPI-S)

3 x on-board thermal monitors

1 x RGMII/RMII with MDIO 1.8 V or 2.5 V Eight CAN-FD up to 12 Mbps 1 x Octal-SPI/Quad-SPI NOR (SAIL)

20 SM-GPIOs
1 x SPI – master
1 x SPI – slave
2 x I2C – master
2-lane UART – master
4 x clock monitors
44 x voltage monitors
3 x on-board thermal monitors
Miscellaneous
SPI
I 2 C
UART
GPIO
26 x QUP SE (GPIO + SSC)
Master and slave
Master
Host
174 GPIOs

21 QUP SE (GPIO)

Master and slave

Master Multi-master

Host

149 GPIOs

32 x QUP SE (GPIO+SSC)
Master and slave
Master
Host
228 GPIOs
PMIC 20 x GPIOs
3 x AMUX

35 GPIOs

8 x AMUX

32 x GPIOs
,7 x AMUX

更新日志

8255与8295同为高通第四台座舱芯片,大体上各项参数都差不多,某些参数8255更强,而有的参数则是8295更强一些。从价格上看,似乎8255比8295更有优势一些,未来有可能会成为新的主流座舱芯片(毕竟8295还是比较贵).

update@0815

1,关于功能安全岛8255/8775上是有完整的SAIL(Safety Island)的,但是似乎8295并没有Safety Island取而代之是SMSS模块(Safety Manager Subsystem),但是这个方案并不是一个成熟的方案,所以目前高通并不特别推荐使用这个模块。

SMSS模块:

8155/8255/8295参数对比_第1张图片

SAIL模块:

8155/8255/8295参数对比_第2张图片 2,

 

update@0802

1,8255/8775软件基线的最终方案是QNX host+GVM,方式可以是QNX+LA或者QNX+LV

当前的软件基线还支持QNX+GVM+GVM,即QNX+LA+LV,但是后续版本只有QNX+GVM一种方案,且QNX为safety版本.

2,8155/8255/8295这几个SOC上的ADSP似乎是同一款产品(L2 cache参数上存在差异),在8155上鲜有OEM/T1能把ADSP使用起来,但是当前的趋势是,越来越多的厂家想使用SOC内部的ADSP替代外部的DSP芯片.

但是需要注意的是,根据每家OEM实现功能的不同,很多情况下ADSP的算力性能并不一定能完全替代外置DSP芯片,而部分ADSP解决方案的供应商的应对方案是将部分算法放到SOC侧做(主要是QNX),这样会损耗掉一部分CPU 算力.

update@0712

3,关于SA8775P 这个芯片,高通的定位是舱驾融合的SOC,8255和8775这两个SOC的所有参数都是一样的,除了AI算力,8775的AI支持48/72T两种配置,而8255最高支持到48T(需要额外打开另外两个AI核)

4,对于8255 高通的定位是中高端的座舱芯片,而8775是舱驾融合的芯片

5,前期8255和8775的软件是同一个软件基线,会在23年底分成两个不同的软件基线(毕竟是两个产品方向)

6,高通会在下半年到24年主推8255/8775两款芯片

7,考虑到英伟达的索尔芯片要到2025年才会落地,猜测很有可能在2025年之前,高通还会推出性能更强劲的SOC对标索尔芯片.

update@0704

更新部分性能参数

1,关于8255 GPU 1300 GFLOPS 只比8155 1100 GFLOPS多不到20%的提升,按照高通的说法,虽然数值上增加不多,但是GPU的架构进行了升级,从benchmark测试结果来看,性能比8155提升80%以上

2,AI算力8255存在多个版本,目前确定的是24T不是最终上限

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