晚上google的时候晚上google的时候看到了一个国外的一篇java与php在web应用领域的对比，有点意思。分享给大家
Comparison of Java and PHP for Web Applications
July 9, 2008 by Fabian Lange
No other language has been causing controversial discussions for a long time as PHP. The codecentric GmbH has specialized in Java, so we get some requests for migration of PHP applications.
This involves often the question of whether Java is better than PHP, which is actually not the main problem. Both in Java as well as in PHP, there are frameworks, designed to create Web applications. Frameworks can of course offset drawbacks of language, but also deny benefits of languages.
To understand the comparison of Java and PHP we must go back in time to about the year 2000. Java brought with Servlets and Struts first concepts for Web applications, but to create, configure and deploy them was very complicated. With the boom of the Internet, a new developer community grew, which quickly learned HTML. But pure HTML limits the possibility of interaction and CGI-Perl scripts were cumbersome and difficult. PHP, however, offered an elegant and simple way, if we wanted a date in a web page, we renamed “.html” to “.php” and inserted where wanted . On Apache Webserver, which already was prepared for PHP, the new file worked out of the box.
Although in Java Server Pages the ability to use scriptlets also did exist, this was frowned upon as unclean. Instead, the Java community advocated the use of components. In my opinion, a critical factor for the categorization of Java as “Enterprise”.
For Internet applications a beautiful design is more important than a functional, as it attracts more customers. While HTML built in Dreamweaver or Front Page by the designer could be easily expandable with dynamic functionality by PHP developers, Java component oriented frameworks could not really work with it. PHP could enrich design with functionality. In Java, however, one had to beautify the functionality.
But in recent years both sides improved. Java reduced the complexity, frameworks like Tapestry or GWT, permitted by templates created by designers. PHP learned with version 5 useful object orientation and frameworks such as Zend or symfony brought design concepts to PHP developers. Also additional libraries of Java found correlation to PHP. For example the PHP ORMs Propel and Doctrine.
From today’s point of view also offer Java and PHP similar functionality. Nevertheless, other aspects are to consider:
Stability
PHP has in my opinion, significant weaknesses. The procedural backward compatibility, no real deprecation mechanism, a mess semi platform independent libraries and functionality are just some of the issues the PHP. PHP lacks a clean cut, which the PHP planned to do with version 6.
Java, however, has a clean platform independence and a fairly well-defined number of core libraries with appropriate quality standards.
Performance
While Java was formerly often described as slow, today’s JVMs are highly optimized for speed, while the script languages, including PHP, still struggle with this. For example a first usable garbage collector will be shipped with PHP 5.3. Also other optimizations were moving very slowly into PHP Runtimes. This might be due to the fact that PHP in contrast to Java restarts the VM after each request, which of course brings additional performance problems. For example for each request session data has to be read from disk. Although there are solutions in PHP (MemCache, APC) these are rarely and partly still heavily in development.
Interestingly, this drawback makes scaling of PHP applications fairly simple. As completely separate requests can be processed, additional hardware results in relatively linear improvements in the capacity of the server. On the Web, the focus is rather on the number of requests, not directly on the exact duration of an individual requests.
Choice
Ideally, you never will re-invent the wheel. It makes sense to look for already existing solutions. Both in PHP, as well as in Java, there is a lot of modular software, partly with free, partly with non-free licenses. However, PHP modules expose significantly more problems than those written in Java. For example, some PHP module developers invented own concepts (e.g. Zend Loader was created by Zend as a substitute for packages) or the modules are only optimized for a framework (like symfony plug-ins).
Java is, especially through the “complicated concepts” such as Class Loading and packages, better prepared for modularization. Due to better tool support (Ant / Maven, Javadoc, JUnit) Java Frameworks have easier to install, better documented and tested artifacts. However PHP tools for these tasks are also on the rise (pake / phing, PHPDocumentor, PHPUnit / lime).
Integration
Integration is certainly the strength of Java. On the one hand, Java itself is almost “Industry Standard”, on the other hand, there are many standards implementations in Java. If a PHP Web application should communicate with a specific protocol, the selection of libraries is rather limited. Even worse, implementations are either only partially implemented or very rudimentary (such as Zend OpenID). Integration of PHP applications with other services usually happens through the database layer.
Developer know-how
Even 20 years ago, Frederic Brooks searched for the “Silver Bullet” and did not find it. In his article he came to the conclusion that software design, problem formulation and the capabilities of the developers are far more important than tools or languages. Therefore, it is certainly a good idea to implement a website by a designer with knowledge of PHP with a state of the art PHP Framework. If it would be a Web front-end of a Java EE backend application Java would be the obvious choice.
However developer knowledge should not hide the fact that some technological hurdles can be overcome only with certain technologies or other languages. So consulting an expert with specific skills makes much more sense than to give it a try with inadequate tools.
So I conclude that Java is still the better choice for many projects. For smaller projects that can be isolated scripting languages might reach the target faster. As a compromise you might give Groovy Grails a try?。分享给大家
Comparison of Java and PHP for Web Applications
July 9, 2008 by Fabian Lange
No other language has been causing controversial discussions for a long time as PHP. The codecentric GmbH has specialized in Java, so we get some requests for migration of PHP applications.
This involves often the question of whether Java is better than PHP, which is actually not the main problem. Both in Java as well as in PHP, there are frameworks, designed to create Web applications. Frameworks can of course offset drawbacks of language, but also deny benefits of languages.
To understand the comparison of Java and PHP we must go back in time to about the year 2000. Java brought with Servlets and Struts first concepts for Web applications, but to create, configure and deploy them was very complicated. With the boom of the Internet, a new developer community grew, which quickly learned HTML. But pure HTML limits the possibility of interaction and CGI-Perl scripts were cumbersome and difficult. PHP, however, offered an elegant and simple way, if we wanted a date in a web page, we renamed “.html” to “.php” and inserted where wanted . On Apache Webserver, which already was prepared for PHP, the new file worked out of the box.
Although in Java Server Pages the ability to use scriptlets also did exist, this was frowned upon as unclean. Instead, the Java community advocated the use of components. In my opinion, a critical factor for the categorization of Java as “Enterprise”.
For Internet applications a beautiful design is more important than a functional, as it attracts more customers. While HTML built in Dreamweaver or Front Page by the designer could be easily expandable with dynamic functionality by PHP developers, Java component oriented frameworks could not really work with it. PHP could enrich design with functionality. In Java, however, one had to beautify the functionality.
But in recent years both sides improved. Java reduced the complexity, frameworks like Tapestry or GWT, permitted by templates created by designers. PHP learned with version 5 useful object orientation and frameworks such as Zend or symfony brought design concepts to PHP developers. Also additional libraries of Java found correlation to PHP. For example the PHP ORMs Propel and Doctrine.
From today’s point of view also offer Java and PHP similar functionality. Nevertheless, other aspects are to consider:
Stability
PHP has in my opinion, significant weaknesses. The procedural backward compatibility, no real deprecation mechanism, a mess semi platform independent libraries and functionality are just some of the issues the PHP. PHP lacks a clean cut, which the PHP planned to do with version 6.
Java, however, has a clean platform independence and a fairly well-defined number of core libraries with appropriate quality standards.
Performance
While Java was formerly often described as slow, today’s JVMs are highly optimized for speed, while the script languages, including PHP, still struggle with this. For example a first usable garbage collector will be shipped with PHP 5.3. Also other optimizations were moving very slowly into PHP Runtimes. This might be due to the fact that PHP in contrast to Java restarts the VM after each request, which of course brings additional performance problems. For example for each request session data has to be read from disk. Although there are solutions in PHP (MemCache, APC) these are rarely and partly still heavily in development.
Interestingly, this drawback makes scaling of PHP applications fairly simple. As completely separate requests can be processed, additional hardware results in relatively linear improvements in the capacity of the server. On the Web, the focus is rather on the number of requests, not directly on the exact duration of an individual requests.
Choice
Ideally, you never will re-invent the wheel. It makes sense to look for already existing solutions. Both in PHP, as well as in Java, there is a lot of modular software, partly with free, partly with non-free licenses. However, PHP modules expose significantly more problems than those written in Java. For example, some PHP module developers invented own concepts (e.g. Zend Loader was created by Zend as a substitute for packages) or the modules are only optimized for a framework (like symfony plug-ins).
Java is, especially through the “complicated concepts” such as Class Loading and packages, better prepared for modularization. Due to better tool support (Ant / Maven, Javadoc, JUnit) Java Frameworks have easier to install, better documented and tested artifacts. However PHP tools for these tasks are also on the rise (pake / phing, PHPDocumentor, PHPUnit / lime).
Integration
Integration is certainly the strength of Java. On the one hand, Java itself is almost “Industry Standard”, on the other hand, there are many standards implementations in Java. If a PHP Web application should communicate with a specific protocol, the selection of libraries is rather limited. Even worse, implementations are either only partially implemented or very rudimentary (such as Zend OpenID). Integration of PHP applications with other services usually happens through the database layer.
Developer know-how
Even 20 years ago, Frederic Brooks searched for the “Silver Bullet” and did not find it. In his article he came to the conclusion that software design, problem formulation and the capabilities of the developers are far more important than tools or languages. Therefore, it is certainly a good idea to implement a website by a designer with knowledge of PHP with a state of the art PHP Framework. If it would be a Web front-end of a Java EE backend application Java would be the obvious choice.
However developer knowledge should not hide the fact that some technological hurdles can be overcome only with certain technologies or other languages. So consulting an expert with specific skills makes much more sense than to give it a try with inadequate tools.
So I conclude that Java is still the better choice for many projects. For smaller projects that can be isolated scripting languages might reach the target faster. As a compromise you might give Groovy Grails a try?