乔丹+皮蓬双包夹?能享受这待遇的估计只有他了!

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平心而论,魔术师约翰逊在如今的NBA是什么水平?


Pretty much Lebron

翻版勒布朗的水平


  • Think LeBron, but less athletic and more skilled. Better passer, better handles, better post game, and remember there was no rule against hand checking back then. The dude would absolutely live in the lane.

    魔术师是身体素质弱化版,技术强化版的乐邦。魔术师的传球更好,能打低位,再说那时候还没有禁止hand checking。魔术师到现在来照样能在禁区内兴风作浪。

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  • lol he would get worked on defense so bad. lane scoring is harder now also, unless youre one of those people that think hand check is tougher than zone defense (for some strange reason).

    哈哈他在防守端是个漏勺。低位进攻现在也更难了,除非你觉得hand check比联防更难搞(出于某些奇怪的想法)。

  • You guys act like he played so long ago. He would do fine. He'd be a bit of a defensive liability, but he was back then as well, and he was still the best player in the league.

    As if Harden or Kyrie or Curry are lockdown defenders that the 80s had no idea about.

    你们不要把魔术师说的像远古巨兽一样。他到现在也会打得很好,他的防守会有点问题。但他在那个年代也不是以防守见长的,但他仍然是当时联盟最好的球员。

    说得好像哈登、欧文、库里放在80年代就是人家没见识过的防守大闸级的球员一样。



He'd be a top five player no doubt, maybe top three. His biggest weaknesses, defense and three point shooting, would be problematic in today's league, but everything else would be good enough to keep him elite.

毫无疑问他会成为前五的球员,可能还是前三。他最大的软肋就是防守和三分球,在如今的联盟这会比较难办,但是剩下的一切都足以保持他的精英水平。

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  • He was a 6'9" PG with elite handles and passing along with elite finishing, so basically a more coordinated Blake Griffin.

    他是一个6尺9的组织后卫,运球、传球、终结能力俱佳,所以大体上来说是一个全面版的布雷克格里芬吧

  • Interesting that you choose Blake as the comparison over LeBron who seems like the better fit for Magic's skill set.

    Magic had better handles, LeBron is stronger and more explosive, but they're pretty damn similar.

    你选择格里芬作为比较对象,而不是乐邦,这很有意思。因为乐邦和魔术师的技术特点更为相似。

    魔术师运球更好,詹姆斯更强壮也更加劲爆,但是他们确实非常相似。


I think there is a lot of underrating Magic in this thread the guy is a legit top 5 greatest player ever not just a "worse lebron" defense wasn't his calling card but he was a complete sieve he would be guarding SFs not PGs which is where he actually struggled. He'd lead the league in assists that's for sure and probably average 22 points and 8 rebounds

我觉得这个帖子有点太低估魔术师了。他是历史前五的球员,而不是只给他打上“穷人版乐邦”的标签。防守不是他的强项,他防守后卫会很挣扎,但是他的能力也足够防住前锋。他一定会成为助攻王,可能还有场均22分和8个篮板。

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  • We need to get one thing straight because I've seen so many "he's basically LeBron but with worse defense and athleticism."

    If you think LeBron is in the same league as Magic when it comes to passing, you need to go watch some game tape. LeBron is a tremendous playmaker with the ability to make some incredible passes. But he is NOT Magic Johnson.

    因为我看到了太多次“他和乐邦差不多但是防守和身体素质相对差一点”的言论,有一点还是要说清楚。

    如果你认为乐邦和魔术师打球时的NBA一成不变,那你就得多看录像补补课了。乐邦是一个出色的组织者,可以送出不可思议的妙传。但是他和魔术师不一样!


  • The only thing I could really say is that he wouldn't be a Point Guard. At a rookie level, he'd likely have been converted to a wing/SF. Doesn't mean he wouldn't be able to do whatever he wanted with the basketball.

    我只想说他(在现在的NBA打球)就不会打组织后卫了。新秀时期他可能改打摇摆人或者小前锋。当然这不是说他拿球什么事也干不了。

  • He'd beast this shit. I dont care how athletic the PGs today are, he'd post them all up.

    Defensively it'd be very interesting since he can just switch assignments with the other wings. Not sure if that's good or bad.

    他会大发神威的。我不在乎现在的控卫们是什么水平,他能用背身把他们干翻。

    至于防守端,如果他换防其他摇摆人,那会十分有趣。不能确定这是好事还是坏事。


  • I think in today's game, he would fit better as a point forward that runs the offense, so you can still have a scoring pg to attack the lane. Easier to hide his defense when there are less skilled wings then pgs

    现在这年头,他打大前锋并组织进攻会更合适一点。这样你还能保留一个能冲击禁区的得分型控卫,水平一般的摇摆人和控卫的情况下,他的防守漏洞也能很好地掩盖住。

  • Magic would dominate. We know Magics skills then add in the new Nba rules that absolutely favor the offense. Just imagine if Chris Paul was 6'9 that's pretty much what Magic Johnson would be, an absolute nightmare

    魔术师将会统治联盟。我们知道魔术师的技巧在NBA鼓励进攻的规则下将会威力大增。你可以把魔术师想成6尺9的保罗,梦魇一般的存在啊。





国内JRS有什么看法呢?


@坠在心间:

91年总决赛G1禅师就是让MJ错位主防魔术师,因为帕克森肯定防不住

但MJ都防得很吃力,随后几场禅师让皮蓬主防魔术师,才有那些经典贴防镜头;

MJ在87年拿最佳防守后到91稳定一防,一双鬼手断得众多后卫哭天喊地,面对魔术师的背打依然没有太好办法,我不知道那些人是怎么得出结论魔术师在如今就运球差还不如格里芬了。


@笨蛋一箩筐:

被乔丹皮蓬包夹的水平



@03之王甜瓜瓜:

基本是联盟第一人的水准,乐邦和他有的一拼,但如果有韦德和波什做队友,我不认为魔术师会错失11-14年之间任何一个冠军。问我为什么?因为5>2。


@凶猛的海盗:

用魔术师的话来说,自己会打爆联盟所有的后卫,虽然肯定有吹牛的成分,但是我依然认为他可以做到。

魔术师,贾巴尔,张伯伦,乔丹,奥胖、邓肯,詹姆斯,科比这类的球员,身体顶级+天赋顶级+篮球智商顶级+自制力超强+很少受伤的属性=成功5要素,上述球员基本最少占了4样,所以,无论在哪个时代都会成功的。

不要说什么远古时代球队少球员身体素质普遍差、黑白时代没防守,乔丹时代没联防,说那些都没用,以他们的身体素质、天赋、篮球智商、努力程度,配上现代的医疗、饮食、训练等客观因素,他们只会比别人更强。

三大C就不说了,现在联盟的C们也就敢比比弹跳力和身体素质。

现在流行3分球,如果乔丹认为是必要的话,以乔丹超级偏执狂的态度他会练不好三分?

魔术师左手运球差、防守差?左手控球现在在高中大学时的教练们就可以练过来了,防守?联盟中游水平没问题吧。

把詹姆斯科比阿杜扔远古去,他们也会成功,毕竟天赋和努力摆在那里。

就算你是物理学的博士你也千万别不要认为你比6、70年前的爱因斯坦更牛逼。



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